Listen to Dr. Anneloes Smitsmann Systems scientist, futurist, founder and CEO of EARTHwise.

“We don't just need to change companies, but to change the system.” How often have we heard this statement?
In this episode, we asked Dr. Anneloes Smitsman what system change means and how companies can contribute to achieving it.
Richard and his guest also discuss if there is a social tipping point where people's acceptance of the need to act on climate change will make a decisive difference in how consumers, employees and investors support the necessary changes in companies.
“When it comes to creating a positive social tipping point, we must not wait for the negative planetary tipping points to act as a catalyst, but rather work proactively to cohere, align all of those movements for the necessary actions, and speak to people's sense of belonging and empowerment in the process.
Because if we don't do that, a lot of that potential is going to be hijacked by many extremist parties.”
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What are the most important elements of a strong corporate human rights due diligence strategy? Listen to Niklas Wehner, Director of Corporate Responsibility International for ALDI South Group
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What progress has been made on real living wages? Listen to Petter Forslund, Engagement Manager at AP2 and Steering Committee Member of the Platform Living Wage Financials

Can human rights due diligence improve corporate financial performance? Listen to Dr Siniša Milatović, Programme Manager at UNDP and Olena Uvarova, UNDP Business and Human Rights Specialist as well as Associate Professor at Yaroslav Mudryi National Law University in Ukraine