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#111 John Morrison: Why Sustainability Will Come Back Stronger

How far has business and human rights come since the early 2000s? Listen to John Morrison, founder and former CEO of the Institute for Business and Human Rights.

What have been the most significant improvements in business and human rights over the past 15 years, and what has lagged behind?

In this episode of Frankly Speaking, Richard Howitt was joined by John Morrison, founder and former CEO of the Institute for Business and Human Rights.  

Together they assessed to what extent sustainability and business and human rights have become the new orthodoxy, and what this means for the success of both movements. You’ll also hear about:

  • The vital importance of trust between companies and communities in improving business and human rights
  • The detrimental impacts of green hushing on progress in both sustainability and business and human rights  
  • What is the best approach to measuring progress on sustainability  
  • Why John is confident that sustainability will come back from the current backlash  
  • What the business and human rights field may look like in ten or fifteen years’ time
  • The key arguments in John’s new book ‘Remaking Sustainability’, including what sustainability advocates have got wrong  

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