What is the future of sustainable business? Listen to Chris Coulter, CEO of Globescan and Mark Lee, Global Director of Thought Leadership at the SustainAbility Institute by ERM

Last week, the 2025 Sustainability at a Crossroads survey was released, providing key insights into the views of nearly 850 sustainability professionals across the world and building upon the survey’s decades-long research, the first results having been published back in 1997. With sustainability at a pivotal turning point, what do experts believe is the best route forward?
This week on the Frankly Speaking podcast, Richard Howitt was joined by Chris Coulter, CEO of Globescan and Mark Lee, Global Director of Thought Leadership at the SustainAbility Institute by ERM, who jointly produced this year’s Global Sustainability Leadership Survey alongside the UK consultancy Volans.
Together they discussed the main findings of the survey, and what it tells us about the ESG backlash globally. You’ll also hear more about:
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What do China’s new supply chain security and counter-extraterritoriality rules mean for European companies trying to conduct human rights and environmental due diligence? Listen to Katja Drinhausen, Head of Programme Politics and Society at the Mercator Institute for China Studies (MERICS).

What does meaningful implementation of the Corporate Sustainability Due Diligence Directive look like in practice? Listen to Julia Otten, Senior Policy Officer at Frank Bold, and Amandine Van Den Berghe, Senior Lawyer specialising in value chains, trade and investment at ClientEarth.
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What role should banks play in society? Listen to Anna Koolstra, Advocacy Manager, Impact and Economics at Triodos Bank